I've been taking them a little over a week now, and I noticed the last two times my bf BDd and used PreSeed, it 'burned'. I read that if PreSeed does that, it means I used it during a time where my CM was already neutral/normal so there actually wasn't a reason to use PreSeed. Before using the EPO pills, I got the same white CM all the time, no matter what stage I was at in my cycle and I was always dry. Now I can see the watery CM, the creamy CM, and hopefully in a few days some EWCM! Sorry if this sounds like an ad, but I just thought I'd share my experience with EPO and hopefully I'll have some more positive news come my way soon! Baby dust to you all! 😄