Military recruitments in low income schools

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To be honest I’m expecting this to be biased as we have quite a lot of military/military wives in this group but let’s give it a go anyway

Do you agree or disagree with the top tweet?

I’ve included the bottom tweet also for extra info and context

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Sa

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The problem is the misconception that Military automatically means combat, when the reality is around 80% of jobs in the military are in non-combat roles. So if you stop picturing soldiers on the front lines and think instead of a desk job (for example) would it still be SUPER offensive to offer students from low income areas a chance at a decent paying job with full medical coverage, housing benefits, opportunities for advancement, and funding for further education? The military is full of doctors, engineers, computer programmers, etc. why not give students from low income areas those opportunities? At the end of the day it is still a choice.

Ma

Ma • Mar 11, 2019
I live near a big base and know plenty of military personnel, no on in combat roles tho.

Na

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The military overall does not give a flying fuck about you. At all. Military recruitment shouldn’t be a thing, no matter what level income the school is.

Am

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My husband is a military recruiter, and I can tell you honestly there is no truth to this. He doesn't get a say so in what schools he goes to. He has a recruiting zone of 28,000 square miles and is required to visit every high school in it. Some of those schools are in good areas, but most of the schools are rural. That has nothing to do with recruiting. Any recruiter worth a damn wouldn't be using money or tactics to recruit. But it's a hard truth for people sometimes, when joining the military is a better option than staying where they are.

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When the rich wage war it’s always the poor who die.

Cy

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1. 80% of military jobs are desk, maintenance, medical, etc and never see combat.2. My husband was a recruiter for a few brief miserable years and they get no say in where they go. They're given an area to cover and they move around inside that area, they don't target particular schools. So that's just a lie.3. Just because her recruiter was a raging twat waffle doesn't mean they all are. My recruiter was amazing. I was the broke ass inner city school kid with no hope of getting out and now I have a career and a family and savings and am able to help my family. The military is a great opportunity and tool for people who choose to use it. Attitude is everything.4. No, the military is not out to save you. That is not the mission. Being in the military doesn't make someone a hero or a good person. There are shit birds here just like there are in the civilian world. Generalizing the military as a group of people who are out to scam others is also just as bullshit.My two cents.

Mo

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Yeah, I'm not cool with this. I'm firmly against any kind of attempts to recruit children. I went to a school in a severely impoverished area. I witnessed first hand as they brainwashed desperate, vulnerable, kids who were told that it was their 'American duty', or that if they didn't join, they'd never had any hope of getting out of poverty. The recruiters were very aggressive about their tactics.Several people I went to school with who did end up joining, ended with severe or exacerbated mental health issues from their service. While some seemed happy with their choices, most of my former peers expressed feeling taken advantage of and didn't get many of the things they were falsely promised. Most of the women I've known who joined the armed forces dealt with harassment and assault, which was rarely properly addressed, and more often covered up. And then there's an old friend of mine who was fought in Afghanistan. He came from a family fully of people who had served. He was pressured into joining, both by his family and the recruiters at his school. He told me about the abuse and horrific conditions he experienced, about what it was like to have to shoot at people and not know how many people he killed. He told me about how he was promised leave while they repeatedly denied it to him or changed the time and only paid him a fraction of what they claimed he'd get. And he told me about the rampant assault, the suicide rates, and about being pushed into taking mysterious pills that were supposed to 'improve his job performance' and about how they made him angry and suicidal. So yeah, suffice to say, I have some pretty big problems with how the United States treats the people recruited into the armed forces.

🎀 𝒯 𝓇 𝒾 𝓃 𝒾 𝓉 𝓎 🎀 • Mar 11, 2019
YEP. I See it all the time. People worship and heroize the military and it’s proven over and over all the issues they have but it doesn’t matter. No one wants to see that their hero’s are still human and still capable of fucking up, and when they’re not held accountable they do whatever they want and hide behind their service to get away with it

Mo

Mothman • Mar 11, 2019
Yep. And I could cite any number of studies that clearly demonstrate all of the problems I cited with cold, hard, statistics. I've been accused many times of being 'Anti-American' for my views on this topic, which is really ridiculous to me considering that I'm not the one trying to make excuses for an institution full of rampant abuse, assault, and brainwashing that still leaves a huge number of people traumatized and discarded like trash.

🎀 𝒯 𝓇 𝒾 𝓃 𝒾 𝓉 𝓎 🎀 • Mar 11, 2019
Exactly 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 people saying “oh that doesn’t happen” or painting the military as some amazing opportunity when it honestly is so problematic. This is the problem with the engrained patriotism here in the US. The military can do no wrong...even when they do

LC

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Her description sounds predatory and malicious from the recruiter. But that is not an accurate description of (most) military recruiters. Do most realize the benefits you get from being in the military? Especially if a person is low income? You can LITERALLY retire with a pension serving 20 years with full medical. My grandpa retired at 38. My family is affluent and even my brother thought about joining after college as an officer so he could work directly with satellites and planes. I hope her statement wouldn’t sway a person of any income from considering the military. It really has so much opportunity, especially for those with little direction.

Ar

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In high school I was thinking about the marines and when I decided I didn’t want to do it the recruiter I was talking to told me I was going to be miserable and working at a minimum wage the rest of my life 🙄

Ar

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Oh and at my school the recruiters would borderline harass the students. They would show up in the middle of class to pull you out to continue to “convince” you. So I can agree with this tweet.

Di

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I considered joining the military out of high school for exactly this reason. They came to my school, which was a low income school to recruit. Had a cousin who was a marine and they paid for his college. I had heard that most of the jobs they offer are not combat jobs which was what tipped me into a conversation with the recruiter. The recruiter said a ton of problematic stuff and treated me like a sexual object which I found incredibly uncomfortable and unprofessional and was the reason I decided not to go through with joining. I thought this was probably a glimpse into the every day interactions with men in the military and I wanted nothing to do with it. Other female recruits I spoke to both online and in person all had such a similar story to tell me, or they told me even worse stories which solidified my decision not to join.The recruiter literally followed me and harassed me about my "lack of potential" and told me I'd probably end up pregnant out of wedlock or dead without them.Fuck no. Absolutely 100% predatory.