How long have you all trying for #2 been TTC & how is it this time as opposed to the first time??

This is our 8th cycle TTC #2 with nothing but bfns followed by af. I just wanted to vent to give my poor, crazily understanding & supportive hubby a break. Its so frustrating. When we conceived our son, it literally happened in the first cycle TTC & without tracking anything. This time I've been doing everything I can and it makes me sad every month when af arrives. Af just arrived last night so that's why its more upsetting today. We'll just keep trying & trust that God has a plan. Although, finding out just before Christmas would be an amazing time to find out!! ;). How long have you all trying for #2 been TTC & how is it this time as opposed to the first time??